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said caroline : I would add a small thing: when I was in motherhood, a lady came to see me to show myself different positions for feeding, and notably position put to bed. This was true clack! because it is possible to use it to have a rest even during the suckling.
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e-Zabel says : I this position, I did not arrive at it with Choupie (while I would have liked because I had a c sa) and I understood knack with the small
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Nanebes says : Then for advice of the integristes of feeding it is necessary to take it and to leave it. The example of the nights in the maternite is tres token. I wanted to keep them with me but there is me explain that feeding would be more serene if I quickly took back force and I etais in form during day! And that's true! apres 3 good nights of sleep (cesarienne a bit difficult) I had a great milk rise and a bebe has never had worries in the morning to "remember how to teter! In more the bebe do not have dale during first 3 days or there is thing not big in teter and he also is more serene! he teaches has teter for the pleasure of the calin
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said caroline :
ah well yours in my case this completely differred: even when I left it to the pediatric nurses at night to be able to (I hoped) a bit sleep, they brought him to me as soon as he mourned so that I could nurse him (and often, it was just at the time when I am going to fall asleep) Result: on four nights crossed to motherhood, I had to sleep to break everything 10 hours one might as well say that I have of it very good memories
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Nanebes says :
The ideal would be to be able to make as they want: sleep if they want to recuperer and to go out of the maternite in form to nurse 100 % if they prefere.
Practice, some there maternites withdraw systematiquement bebes apres a cesarienne! others re-watch over the moms
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e-Zabel says :
token I needs to say that in any case, even without baby, at night in motherhood, I succeeded not really in sleeping but ok, it has already been one worries to know less them taken care during some hours!
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discover says : ah well ca depend I he wanted to take me bb so that I have a rest but I did not want!! 1st bb, I could not imagine separer to me there the slightest instant!!
on the contrary in advice I I would have added: not to be afraid of to try only and to calling sage woman / puericultrice apres to have tries because there are moms (my neighbour of room has put it down by ex) who do not dare and wait that one come to put in them bb in the breast, and for mere relation / bb and for the catch of self-confidence c not great!
(token I say ca but there meme great time apres deliveries, 4 or 5 hours I walked and the following day gt in great form, therefore ct not too hard for me either)anyway thank you e-Zabel for this differents tickets
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says : experiments, there are as much as moms and babies.
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said caroline : A very morning ticket
And I share the exp rince of Nanebes on nights in motherhood!-
e-Zabel says :
Caro, Caro, nan, do not think that I am in front of the screen at 7 h, my secret: the planning of articles! Ah it is nice technology
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says : It was even not in a dream question that I leave my baby two dryness in an unknown Even to the daddy I felt a pain at the beginning! Besides having been brief e by my SF of preparation with especially do not leave your baby in children's home, they are going to give him a bib , I have completely hallucin facing the ignorance of SF / PEDIATRIC NURSES / PEDIATRICIAN facing the beginning of lactation. Two edifying examples: a pediatrician who says me to J+2: You nurse every 20 minutes? But madam, it is necessary to wait at least 1 h 30 otherwise you will not nurse any more in 15 days! (Thank you my guy, included everything to you in the film) and SF at the end of the thread at 4 h of the checkmate , then my breast is stone at the time of the milk rise and which rascal succeeds in suckling, who says to me: You want a nursing bottle of complement? No, co ****, I want assistant for the bet in the breast, milk, I have it more that is needed!!!! In short, there more than to hope that the second time, it is more zen ! Bref, y plus qu esp rer que la deuxi me fois, c est plus zen
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e-Zabel says :
OK? ohhhhhhhh for 2nd lead to them a little, only for gouter for the pleasure of being cushy some hours they will be the last before nan, I go not to d gouter
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this goes not not!!!??? this small being which you hold in hot during nine months to part from it?!! Nan I I arrive at it not before, humph, one month? Finally I think that the first one I left it 10 min for the first time she had more than 5 weeks I know, it is pathological
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Thank you mom E-zabel for all this advice.
Of whom the principal which I keep: you trust and in your baby!
The history of the pictures of suckling slowly makes me laugh, for Little girl n 2 who contrary to her sister had the beginning of feeding of dream, I will have been able to draw an uninterrupted line the first 48 h
What saved me and really allowed me to nurse my elder (small weight, which put 7 days to suckle! after a difficult birth and a c sa), it is to have attended a meeting LLL, seen the babies suckling before mine, to have had advice, and also had people behind me to cheer me up to put it down when it howled because too much slept (stunned by birth), and could not suckle any more. 2 persons' phone calls which re-motivated me for feeding saved me while I slobbered of desire in front of the daughter of the room of opposite who came back from the children's home with her small nursing bottles lined up well at the foot of the cradle of her baby, I told myself: her, she is going not to have a hard time, with a baby who howls, the filled breast, then the breast pump because baby will drink not
thanks to these 2 phone calls, I hung on, in 24 h, my daughter suckled well and during years.
In short, encircle yourselves with " good vibes " at the beginning, this can save everything.-
e-Zabel says :
Thank you Am to have come so often these last days to supplement my tickets, to answer the questions of the readers, in short: to you ace air of maitriser perfectly subject and you make everybody be of benefit: THANK YOU!
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Of nothing, E-za, you know in 4 years of uninterrupted feeding, it was seen (I said well 4 years, not 4 months
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And then I was relieved well of credit of advice myself, and of " good vibes " , then I announce it to my turn
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pelote56 says : thanks a lot for all this advice which is not (there!!), I must say that that's good luck since I am in full inside , my daughter has 7 weeks today and I nurse her.
I find across your evidence and those of your readers, all experiments (or almost!) that I could have (I also nursed my 1st)
I thought to make confidence more the 2eme time, (and it is case) but there, I begin doubting, always for the same reasons: visit native post to the gyneco yesterday: quuuuuuoi?? she still belongs to 8 suckling a day?? she reveille twice on night??? she is permanently glued together in your arms or in him door baby?? waouuuuuuuuuuuu!! but this does not go this.!!!!! how you are going to make in resumption?? sorry, as though I had not already thought of it and that this did not put me on edge rather just like that!!!comment vous allez faire la reprise?? hein, comme si je n y avais pas d j pens et que a ne me stressait pas assez comme a!!
Suddenly, inevitably, questions ring out, doubts and catch of head, all the more so as I take back the work in 15 days.
in short not easy all this but that's true which happiness to nurse his babies nonetheless
I use it to ask those who knew this if they have solutions facing a baby VERY applicant of arms, permanent need of physical contact (with me especially but this also walks with his father!) how they make to take out there???? is necessary me let her mourn??
help!!!
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The scarf of porterage!! here is my solution. and close ears to the opinions of the right-thinking.
My 2 daughters were carried, nursed up to more thirst, slept with us, and it did not prevent me from taking back job, and from living my life! On the contrary. It softened separation, and helped every member of the family to be able to stand
In 7 week, of course when your baby needs to be carried! and to suckle often.
Just an information to put speech into perspective on frequency and length of the suckling: the maternal milk digests in 20 min!!! therefore yes, a baby who mourns 20 min after one suckled is hungry, and he needs to suckle again. It is easily possible to give the breast in a scarf of porterage, in any discretion, and by continuing attending to its occupations, as though to occupy the elder. In baby carriers sling type or door - calllin also. -
Mary says : I I had the same model as you: my daughter was at all times on me. This also has advantages, because she was really wise on me, of blow I went everywhere (museum, caf with live music.). On the contrary impossible to put it down even to wash me!
Solution, euh has it to it not, I would tell I would satisfy to max the need of your baby, it is a normal and natural need which disparaitra all alone rather quickly (in 5 months at our place now I find that it makes me not enough calins well on!). I am sure that there is risk of familiarisation in calins, or " bad habits " , not in this age there anyway. Do not listen to those who say it or suggest it. In Africa bb are glued together on their mother dnas the loincloth or in the breast 2 non-stop years, this prevents them no being independent afterwards.
And if you do not want it, on the contrary, or that you are fed up, you pux there to let her mourn by explaining him that you need freedom. And qd you will take back the work, she will quickly understand new rhythm, much better than if you impose it on her beforehand.
Token it was a long comment of blow!
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Even model also.
Caused especially by a low tide which the pediatrician did not want to determine
It lasted eight months (while I revised), porterage, co-beddy-byes, feeding.
That's true that at the end of eight months I could not there any more and that all family suffered as a result of it in some way.
But I do not regret therefore. I think that she needed it, that it was necessary for her and that a bib would have disposed nothing, either in its low tide, or in its rhinos.
Some babies have more needs than others and this does not mean as far as one by way of future " capricious children " .
My two daughters had the same worries and today, while they are 4 and a half years and 18 months old I have no problem to put to bed them. At 20 h 30 they go to the bed without rechignier, without getting up again ten times. In short, I always answered their calls while they were babies and even if it is exhausting for the mother, I think that unconsciously she know that if they need, I will be there.
Therefore no call for nothing.
Good courage to you, these first months are not always easy but you construct your (and to them) tranquilit intended.-
pelote56 says :
sincerely thank you it is good of credit of encouragement and of support in these instants there
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I am in the same case as you, ball, my little girl has 5 weeks and it is also type I want arms what was made since the beginning: take her, except during meal with 2 big not to impose on them to them tense parents and at the edge of the p tage of lead. They explained her that they needed calm instants with her brothers and that they would come back search her straight after that (it was desolate tears) and I have an impression that this goes already better. She suckles a little less often also. Courage!
Otherwise in the hospital I gave complements also because my colostrum did not sate baby, I had never seen this! One hour in the breast (by alternating droite-gauche-droite-gauche) and she howled tjs with hunger therefore I gave bibs, can when I had some true milk, I could stop and have happiness to see her sated only with me! Ecstasy
Thank you E-za for this evidence, where they are very a bit!
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e-Zabel says :
Yeah, here I did not want to give of advice, but fair to help little
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Great, it is perfect! I think that everything is said (more the small comments!) I think exactly just as you (of the drink, of herbal tea, of sleep) and I achieved my two feedings by overcoming all difficulties about which you spoke the previous days. Yes, to Nurse request of will and of " good vibes " as just says Am . And to listen a lot, you are right.
For baby fellow, gluttonous baby, I nursed him every hour in the morning, and practically not after midday, it was his rhythm, it is everything. And I heard you should not it is too often . Does me!
Beloved sister listened to his doctor " every 2 h " , result, as bb was empty sated, he fell asleep and when he was hungry, he wore itself out calling until 2 h pass. In the final, weight loss, bib of complement and at the end of feeding. Oups.I would also add that it is also necessary to justify the "cobeddy-byes" . I, I was against and after 1 month of (engrossments) galleys with my Big Fellow to restart my lactation, I spent a night with him, he suckled when he wanted and I slept at pleasure. The following day, the milk was there and everything was better.
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e-Zabel says :
Yes I confess to be part of these moms who are in priori "against " the cobeddy-byes but for my case personally, because my sleep is blest but I apper ois me in murissant that I will become easily more flexible on this subject now
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Thank you for all these tickets on a so natural but so difficult subject.
Personally, I nursed 3 months for each of my daughters without pain but without a lot of milk and the passage in the bib was a relief. But it is an unique and splendid experience.
On the contrary, in my case, I could not make co-beddy-byes because I needed my space of sleep me.
I carried them as much as they needed it and everything call , for the resumption of job in 3 months, with the nanny.
The catchword is really good vibes !-
e-Zabel says :
good vibes!!
Of nothing and for co beddy-byes, see my answer below: I am how you, the beddy-by is blest for me, it is just like that that I hold out and I need to be in calm and quiet!
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Pooh I I leave. I nursed both first 1 month exclusively, second mixed month, they howled with hunger round the clock and my pediatrician rotted me, because I was a selfish woman to ent ter me, because my children took no that 400 grammes a month I accepted what many women refuse to see opposite: I have a bad milk. And oh well for those who howl by saying that this does not exist. If it is possible. I waits for the 3rd and I do not have nerves with both first in legs to reattempt experience.
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I rebound on your comment.
I nursed my 2nd eight and a half months he weaned of himself among whom seven and a half in exclusive. And I really lived the galley for him from start to finish: he was continuously starved (there it will not be possible to object me the peaks of growth!) and as I wrote it the other time, he did not tolerate the liquidity of my milk. He was fed in the maternal milk and in medicaments. Great!
Indeed, whom did it really please?!
I want to add that I was distinctly more researched in more on subject with my second.
Yes, I am persuaded that there are moms whose milk is am deficient (why would not it be possible since they know that some have more milk than others???) and/or not corresponding to the needs of his child. It is rare but this exists.
Every mom, every baby and every feeding differs.
But you can reattempt, nonetheless. Attention, I understand your resentment!
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e-Zabel says :
Indeed do not reattempt if you do not smell him! But the lack of tact of your pediatrician must play in felt tone a lot it is really damage. Good SERENE pregnancy
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moon79 says : Thank you e-Zabel for these tickets special week of feeding. This is good of credit of returns of experience of moms.
All advice which was given me I kept the only one (that of SF to put her down): you listen! you know what is good for YOUR baby but you are not obliged to shout him on all roofs .
My bibou tete at request and very often, sleeps in our bed and the most clear master key in his/her time in our arms. And to crown the whole I think to nurse him more than 6 months
and good, they are all enraptured and as I follow the advice of SF, I have a royal peace of PMI, pediatrician and company (I do not lie sorry! but not made to come back into details)-
e-Zabel says :
of nothing, I am really happy with this series and with returns that she generated!
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and well all that still does not say to me if I feel like nursing the deuxieme!
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e-Zabel says :
and it is not me who am going to answer your place
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of vill le says : Well I it is the first time that I leave a comment on a blog (if if, that's true), in more on a ticket which concerns me means seen which I chose not to nurse my two children (for the first one, my mother was in very bad position in a nasty breast cancer, is going to know, I not could just / required use my n n s at this moment there). And for second, I had not desire to treat it differently as the first one, I had found that bib it was nevertheless great cool (especially first week, no complex to delegate a bib of night and make good refreshing naps). Suddenly, zero baby blues, managed tiredness. But ok, it is not pout this that I come: e-Zabel, I read you for more than a year, quasi every day (otherwise I catch my delay!) small pause fraicheur in my day, and the occase (that I could grab, too stupid) to say to you thank you about it live came at the level of the underground convention yesterday at about 14 h 30, I am sure of having passed you in the street, but I had my two pussycats which I brought at the doctor's, I was pushed for time, in short, I did not catch you, then with a day of delay and indirectly: thank you for what you make, thank you for your advice, your good mood, your experiments you return our lives more fun!
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e-Zabel says :
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
I believe it not! You admitted me on the street: I re-go there!! Joking apart, I will have been drolement surprised! It is too funny
Anyway I confirm you that I was in Convention at about 14 h 15 I believe
are you in the district?? a coffee one of these days is made?
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pelote56 says :
thanks a lot for your advice and your comments, this is really good for me to read you and this relieves me!
I am therefore going to go on as I make it since the beginning, but without feeling guilty and asking me too much questions finally I am going to try!!
that's true that it is vraiement your blog very great e.za!!
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e-Zabel says :
I am very fiere of you my readers! Three cheers for solidarity, thanks to all
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I am not one fan of feeding but I enquired well for Nectarine and these are good advice
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bethanie says : Thank you for having avoided the side donor of lessons!
the articles of this week were instructive, clever and show your opening of mind
I read it without feeling guilty d to have given the nursing bottle!
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e-Zabel says :
I am happy to have succeeded in avoiding what I absolutely did not want to write: banality without humour and with a tone of donor of lesson!
Thank you for this nice return of your part!
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And good, thank you for all these articles on the occasion of the week of feeding.
A mattering subject treated simply, without fuss and full of humour
I very much wanted and even more to read all experiments.
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e-Zabel says :
ah you are choupi to say to me thank you very there
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milie-says : Good morning e_Zabel.
This makes an end that I had not passed to see you on your blog (more too much the time with bb n 2 arrived in July) and your subject of the week speaks to each other well!
In brief, I am delighted with my 2nd feeding (much less difficult than I first where I also knew all that others and you even described) but I have some questions nevertheless because at the time when I nursed my daughter me had read that my milk once drawee kept 24 h in the refrigerator. Today I had another information and I find that he there one blest difference because goes shopping to him speak of 8 days to the fridge!! Have you a reliable answer to this subject?
On the other hand would you have advice on the use of the disposable bags and the freezing of our "production" ?
Thank you and see you soon to read you, milie.-
Emilie, you can find the basics on the site LLLFRANCE:
http://www.lllfrance.org/L-allaitement-dans-la-vie-quotidienne/Conservation-du-lait-maternel.html
Extract:
In the present state of researches, it can be said that the milk keeps:
- at room temperature (19 - 22 ), during 10 hours,
- in 15 , during 24 hours,
- in the refrigerator (0 - 4 ), during 8 days,
- in the compartment for frozen foods of a refrigerator, during two weeks,
- in the compartment 3 stars of a handset refrigerator-freezer, during three-four months,
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e-Zabel says :
answered by email and I see that Am has still off-loaded (for my most great pleasure) for r opndre you
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Astrid says : It is the first time that I leave a comment on your blog, good that I read it since some time. Thank you for all your articles, advice and especially humour! This makes a lot of good to see that they are not the only mom to juggle between child (ren), work and life personally. About feeding, before and during the pregnancy, I did not feel like nursing (the picture of the nourici re, fright of dependency, exclusive link etc). Distrust of problems of health of the spitz at the end of the pregnancy encouraged me not to envisage feeding. Finally, the spitz went well but I stayed on nursing bottles and this very well took place.
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e-Zabel says :
Ahhhhhhhhhhh another small news which makes its coming out today
Thank you for this comment, this very pleases me. Delighted to read that everything took place well with your choice!!!
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I continue nursing in 4 months 1/2 and intend to go on (if I can) until 6 months.
The worst: my gyneco, why still nurse you? considering your activity.
and then p v nase, cuddles makes it to you what???
I just regret the hours crossed with my breast pumpIt will never be said enough: if there is some milk it is to use it not???!!!
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e-Zabel says :
they really have this reflexion it is of a stupidity courage!!!
PS: message accepted for vote
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sylvette says : All that confirms what I had suggested to the manager of motherhood: that it was necessary to create a place where the moms meet to nurse, dialect, to share their good and bad times, their anxiety, their galleys, their doubts. See that they were not alone in that case. Help each other what. They remain the often only with our questions, guilt and all tsintsouin.
After motherhood there are centres which accept the moms and to them babies, who are places of exchanges, but since a jug I went never there, and I do not know if it is really known.
Do not hesitate to devote yourselves, young mom who nurse, you will see that others do not lead open sea either!-
e-Zabel says :
a good idea veiled: a place of "physical" exchange for the moms.
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says : Bravo and thank you for all this advice, and all these truths also (they were all known I believe!);
for my part, bb1:7 months of feeding among which 6 exclusive and bb2 11 month of feeding among which 10.5 of exclusive (5 months to wean my "grafting" she was even labelled of "anorexic" by a pediatrician-step mine, phew - (!) it is written on its book, if, if, nice stupidity token ok, it struck of the hunger 3 days qd it noticed q the suckling were reduced and by suckling rattrappait (t touillant!) 2 hours in the morning!!! )
there tt case, tt it passed well, there are tops and bottoms (as the famous stages of growth where is needed VRAIMENTS' to stick, as you say it), and then it is so much "better " (qualitatively, I even gave my milk to the hanging lactarium but "chance" to have an excessive lactation! and 2 months;-
e-Zabel says :
bravo for your milk donation! I had thought of it but I confess to have had "laziness"
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First passage here and already a very interesting article! I am in full inside: BB1 nursed 10 months, BB2 nursed 9 months and BB3 in the course of feeding at the age of 19 months. This morning I was in a meeting of Leche League
I will rebound on a sentence of your article:
do not lose view that even the persons who are supposed any connaitre can say big stupidity. My pediatrician []
It is necessary to dare to say it, the pediatricians are often very badly informed on feeding and do not hesitate to assert enormity. How many feedings failed further to smoky advice of incompetent pediatricians?! The pediatricians are a bit lost with the breast-feeding, they lack quantifiable landmarks. It is necessary to resign himself: let us leave to the pediatricians the care to take care of diseases, and let us get ready not to be possible count on their advice for feeding. Leche League or professional advisors in lactation stays. Where blogs lighted as this one. -
Said Leona : To rebound on this last com , I was better a bit recommended by my gyn co where by the pediatrician on feeding, and on the contrary I had an only and a very bad telephone contact with Leche League (but I think that I did not have chance that day). In principle it is personnel of motherhood and sages-women who should give the best advice in the field, but all the comments on the blog of E-za in the course of these last days show well that it is not always case
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e-Zabel says :
welcome and thank you!
Problem is that naturally, a young mom is going to listen to her pediatrician!!!
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I am of those who are a plutot in the listening of the baby that of that of the pediatric nurse!!! Every baby has his rhythm different, it is needed plutot to try to make in function!! On top of that, if you have several children, you will have been able to note that to them rhythms and their character differ, then as much to fit as to impose on it a rhythm which does not admit for it! If you need advice concerning your baby
I would not know that to recommend you too much a site where I learnt a lot: wwww.bebe-trucs.com, be packed with small smartness to grow together !!! Good day to you. -
The article and your comments fall sheer because I am in full reflexion Desire to try in interest of my baby, but not kamikaze either! They will see over instant how things come. Yesterday I have already had the right to my first course to delivery. Nothing was spared I. Florence Foresti said therefore plainly!
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Thanks a lot for this very good article and very your advice. I discover your blog and love!
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I am completely in what you write and I had exactly the same anecdote in motherhood
My first one was nursed 7 and a half months (because I passed right away to the mixed feeding, without palliating and of blow I had no more milk) and for the second, it was 11 and a half months: in the final I have of it very good memories, it is for me, much more practical than the nursing bottle even if it asks for some availability of the mom.
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qd I baby was, I trais allergic in the maternal milk.
Finally: I was allergic in the protein of chaiplukoi, which was in the lat of my mom.strange sorry? I had to be part of 1 % for which the maternal milk is not good!!
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vero81 says : Then I I think that the best advice is to trust one, to believe in its instinct.
My ain was nursed 8 months but the beginning was very difficult because of a puericultrice very bad of PMI who said to me that stupidity of style: imperative to wait 3 h between the suckling, to come through some milk between 2 suckling to supplement the following suckling, etc, etc or how to transform feeding there cauchemard. Finally, spent first month, I listened and this ran as on castors.
My 2eme thread shone nursed 2 and a half years and this was 100 % great because there I trusted me and him. Token of course there are difficult capes qq as the peak of growth of 6 months or first tooth (not teeth it is not embarrassing to nurse, token qd the first tooth grows, he is going to try it but seen the r action he quickly understands that his intere^t is not to bite!).
Otherwise, the problem of my feedings: at nights. 2 "made" the nights once weaned!!!
but ok it is no general implementation.
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Nice your experiments, they had compiled all stupidity which it is possible to hear on feeding, it is hilarious and mostly ill-founded, but ok, need to struggle with one even and often with the opinion which people have around us on feeding, are jealous!
It was my ptit com pecks e-Zabel
Here is the article:
http://www.maybibou.fr/blog/2009/07/31/Le-betisier-de-l-allaitement-maternel-allaitement-bebe-leche-league-conseilleres-lactation-.html
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