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November 27th, 2008 in (Debates)
You perhaps heard about it these last weeks, goes shopping to him Whom to Choose speaks to him this month (n 464 page 27) under title Alert the moms .
The moms it is us, then today, small zoom lens on cosmetics for baby and notably the famous limp with birth that they distributed us in motherhood.
Where they remind us therefore one more time that the paraben it is nasty but not that this: EDTA (powerful toxin of the kidney and the reprotoxique) also. I make you a summary and you will find at the end of ticket of references to go to read if you want to know about it more.
The committee for the sustainable development in health (C2DS) implicates the security of beauty products for babies distributed notably gracefully in motherhood. You know rose limps her!? The ingredients of big marks specialised "babies" were crossed to the riddle (Mustela, Niv a, Pampers, Mixed baby). Result of shopping: a tremendous number of doubtful substances the cancerogenic effects of which on the animal were established! Then of course, the toxicity on the man was not shown until now. The scientists especially fear consequences to long term and effects of a cumul with other doubtful substances to which the babies are every day displayed (alimentataion, habitat, pollution).
While to make? Play paranos, do it as of the 1st shirt or be realistic simply: yes there is a risk undoubtedly, among other malheuresement? The famous principle of precaution should make us turn to organic produce. Yes but which? Because some are not blameless, notably in allergens.
For my part, I use since birth Choupie little of beauty product for baby. At our place it is Klorane for the cleaning of popotins and the bath. Of lingette finally 1 packet which makes me the year, in the pushchair, in case in the park For the moisturizer, my choice turned on "Trixera" of Av ne (without paraben, without perfume). Not of this "smells nice" for baby, I find retarded person this, smells a baby good all alone, (yes except when he has just filled his layer, I know thank you.)
I what "shocks" me in this war statement of C2DS against motherhood which for them gives support to potentially dangerous products, it is that problem is not that in motherhood, yes ok a bottle of water and a sample of cream are taken out again with 3 lingettes, a layer, But it is the same marks which are found in supermarkets and in parapharmacie by going out!
To know more about it, I invite you to read these articles:
News News Environnement
Space Male nurse
Sites on beauty product BABY BIO:
Beauty product Bio
The World Bio
And the small opinion poll of the week, to you to answer. Say to me what you use as products for your louloux, if you are sensitive to these alerts or if you pass besides and why?
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38 comments
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bein token when you make opinion polls, opinion poll it is touuuut at the bottom of the page
I I am of the opinion to pay attention without falling in the psychosis you lived in city? to you ace of lines electriques who pass not far? bein to know that in he Driven *** has her it from the paraben and products too much not token ca is only one worries on top of that, no more and no less engraves
Therefore I try to find products of token. But I am addicted in lingettes me, it is as ca
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Many years I have parents who give me with some liniment (olive oil) to clean the "seat" of their babies. And I use a cleansing without rinsing for their "face" type Corinne of selling in supermarket.
For my own children it was cotton and water, lingettes for crabous s excrements simple percentage of care Aderma in the milk of oats. -
( "worse " also care Aderma)
I am not a girl pro Bio.
The quality-label Bio irritates me! psychologically! All cows should produce some milk Bio!
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Said Abdoul : All cows should produce some milk Bio!
It is rather odd to believe in it still.
Essential difference (if you want knowledge, sandralou), it is mainly the health of the cow.
There was for example this American scandal of the milk producers without GMO. The M business company wanted to attack the independent milk producers to have shown this mention on their products In brief, the American pharmaceutical business company which produced intensively, gr ce in toxic manures and in known pesticides, GMO who served for feeding the cows (GMO in exclusive feeding the 'obese ' cows are productive, and force the milk production of the animals) also produced medicaments which served for making go down the udders which were not anatomically conceived to support such output. The American milk is still sold with in its composition, sometimes of anti-inflammatory and other medicaments, sometimes of today could, result of the numerous infections of udders. Some independent producers would like to distance themselves of these ways of giving some milk. I think that they lost their trial against the business company, after an epic legal battle.
It is therefore, rather than to be pointed against labelling Bio, to tell itself that we are burst over a gentle heat, by lying to us, and almost with our agreement.
Every movement in the sense of this new impetus ' bio ' is to encourage without reservations for me. He leaves of our survival.
My small sister, died from a confirmed environmental cancer, is held at my level as one of the first victims of one genocides consumerist of mass.
He is indeed already much more late to act than what you believe.
I hope that the death in the door of your fridge, or of your cupboard of bathroom, if it arrives without telling will not irritate you too much, scared perhaps that in instant there, you get worked up finally.
Looks after you.
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Ah pooh yes but ok if they begin looking, nothing more is eaten nothing more is worse drunk they give up breathing so sorry!
Here to wash him in the morning it is the water without rincage to Dominate age, for cleaning of the small buttocks it is lingettes Kandoo and under the shower it is Sanex, the shampoo it is extremist soft children in the apricot and finally the creme for apres shower it is Exomega of Aderma on sale in chemist's shop.
If is organic produce coutaient less a lot why not but really bios?
A cow who makes some milk or saying Bio, sniffs the meme air where her neighbour not bio then sorry -
Nath-Ali says : Ouah they lived in a society or they want to contaminate us!! between the chairs which kill, the dangerous boots, the asparagus which comes of it bargain-hunt (seen during my last shopping to Crossroad besides is leading jars Crossroad).. Supporting the carcinogenic products!! I for my louloute I use products of bath / shower Klorane on the contrary I use lingettes I think that I am going to stop
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says : I have just made a note on the toxic products for baby there
http://les400clics.hautetfort.com/archive/2008/11/23/your-natural-misscaca.htmlIn motherhood, for some years they cmmencent to grow to a bath a week, no products which remain on skin (rinsing), no oil which causes allergies
lingettes it is not biodegradable I do not use.
For the rest, it is cotton and liniment (olive oil and limewater) and I have no problem of red buttocks or I do not know what.For the Bio, a produ ct " bio must show 95 % of its composition minimum in products of biological origin. The milk Bio, the cow eats of the untreated grass, and not flours it is not a question of air but of food.
Beauty product Bio guaranteed: a not use of petrochemical components portrays paraben + components of biological and natural origin.
And for its price, beauty product Bio in distributor's mark develops more and more (I think of Crossroad to Act for example) and an equivalent product of big mark of cosm to is not more expensive than (portrays the L'Or al or other one).
Problem is the diktat of marks coming from the development of the advertising creativity of the eighties, more the welfare state which is supposed to control everything for the good to be his citizens. He annihilated the critical attitude of the consumers who swallow all promises and other insurance
Fortunately it is changing and of NGO portrays Greenpeace keeps us posted about all this since a very long time ago (I think in VIGITOX, the report delayed up to date yearly on beauty products and others with all listed dangerous products, are going to read it on the site of Greenpeace this tranquilizes)
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My mom used of Mustela on me to 10 years! My sister still buys it for her, to hydrate the skin Go we worse for it?
I doubt it.For doudoux, I used Poupina but exclusively of some liniment to clean the small very fragile buttocks of Chupa.
Some olive oil, oil of the limewater, nothing has repeat ;-)And lingettes, for displacements, I use it.
I do not like to fall in the psychosis.
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I am of + there + appalled due to the fact that they sell us with complete impunity products filled with toxic substances: cosmeto, eats a lot
and all the more qd it concerns bb!
on the contrary what is clear it is that they cannot either if arreter to consume and to live.
as for the carcinogenic risk of products this makes me had fun well that the whole dish suddenly (is made as each time they discover the toxicity of a product) because they are not any more in a carcinogenic substance near: pesticides in the chow, pieces of furniture which liberate volatile particles, the air pollution or clouds of tchernobile with us mildly avoid 20 years ago!
in short all this to say that without becoming an ayathollah of Bio and of natural life, I try to max of privil gier this way to consume.
vegetables Bio and for the bath of the imp, at the moment this klo ***, the parapharmacie said to me that it etait without parabene and all that sort of thing
pr the rest: water and liniment
go on it, I am going to recover in the work, light my clim who consumes, to print heaps of sheet of paper which d foreste the asie, and to drink my small not equitable coffee
see you soon in the marvellous world -
Here it is soap Bio without chemicals (attention not to merge "natural" and "healthy !) because chemistry it is my job, I can read a bottle
And oleo liniment calcareous (olive oil and limewater, sold in chemist's shop) and cotton lingettes to clean the exchange rate
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it is funny because Mustela has the product nevertheless almost 60 years old is always the same many years, because it is for the bath, buttocks or even lingettes I think that the kid is it 50 years old, his mother to use products on him Mustela which one saying in the long term can cause this or that knack, he is always alive well, without illness or that..
I do not mean that I make not attention to the health of my daughter, far off, given that she makes quite a lot of cutaneous reaction and other food allergy, but ok, if it is necessary to watch everything..
no chicken because has it the gripe chosetruc, no milk because he is dubious, no red meat because it is very bad if they eat it too much..
not such vegetable ca gives such illness and all that sort of thing
I am not against the bio but me wait am not fan
I am no type to adhere to a reason which begins today while knack exists for more than half a century..
I find it very difficult to understand why is forbidden us this or that thing by saying to us but you make what you want
the pink b te in motherhood, this was accepted by the Ministry of Health so really That to Choose calls knack into question, that they ask of searches on behalf of the ministry and then veiled
finally wholesale trade, I see not why I would change my way of acting for my daughter, that it is products, layers (yes not some layers because with produced indoors this can become a cancer on long term:/) or food, I pay attention me to give him but I am going not to begin reading this or that labels to know if this or that component indoors has it..
euh I made a paving nan? desole:/ -
recently I bought the range Bio to Act of crossroad, this smells nice, it is no more expensive than a product not bio, in priori there is no paraben indoors but I have a feeling that marks Bio go to discriditer this because does not delude us there is nevertheless a sacred market of the Bio and I sometimes have an impression a bit that we are taken for pigeons on the pretext of health
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diditete says : I became aware of this problem some months ago and I dangled all knack filled with trick (Klorane, Mustela and cie).
I clean face and buttocks in the water + cotton, for the bath, creams, it is WELEDA (marks that I love and recommend!)
I also use WELEDA for Zom and me
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I also saw this to 400 clicks. I find this rather astounding and this also frightens me.
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I do not know that to think. I used of Mustela to sucker for the big and I go on for the 3rd, to a lesser extent. On the contrary ace hushed up heard about the toxic bibs? This ca makes me pinball and I heat no more my bibs in the microphone waves or cross them in wash dishes.
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Not of lingettes at our place!
All told I must have 3 products as Ludo:
* some liniment ol ocalcaire
* some water of uriage to clean face, hands, buttocks
* washing frost also uriage for the bath (thermal knack without paraben perfect)Red buttocks: cicalfate of Av ne.
And it is everything!
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Ah yes bibs! Miss 400 said to me that my Advent it was of derides her:s
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I do not vote because it is a mix of 3. I have WELEDA as the solar products, and the cream for dry face. I use cadum baby for the shower (the big bottles in the cherry or in the almond, the miam). Buttocks it is some water, some cotton, a bit soap cadum baby if necessary. For the red buttocks it is osine or mytosyl (the efficient only one, in my opinion). it is everything. They also gave us perfumes which take the dust on a shelf.
Ah so cream nivea, the good old limps with it blue, sometimes at the exit of the bath to compensate for big grief. They love spreading (they even spread the chest of drawers one day )
some lingettes in the car, because it is more practical than the cotton, the water and the soap to be transported. -
diditete says :
Peony: I dangled my bibs Advent ;-) also, I had forgotten
I use Nuby in polypropyl ne, this crosses microwaves in without clearing damaging substance
e-Zabel: if I can afford, suggestion for a next article the washable layers :-)
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Said Leona : That's true that I am taken (not enough?) the head with this.
I eliminated all products Klorane since my baby made an allergic reaction to a product Klorane in the very first weeks.
Since, I buy little by chance from products Uriage, Av ne, Mustela or nivea, and my flea had no cutaneous reaction to these marks.
In the final, as Peony, I use in fact only a very small number of products, a water, a product for the bath, and from time to time a moisturizer or an oil of massage, and it is everything. Ah! without forgetting of course a solar cream strong hyper for summer.From lingettes, as E-za I have of it a packet in the pushchair as walks and trips, it is everything.
The quality-label Bio, why not, but personally speaking it is only from time to time for small pots of vegetables and of fruits that I use in repair.
As for nursing bottles, I began using Advent of before the debate on these nursing bottles begins (they are even forbidden from now on to sale in Canada, where my in-laws live!), and I continue using them since I never put them in microwaves or in the dishwasher.
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I am sawed for bibs.
My girlfriends use those there also
I could not take of the glass my Wild child throws them when he does not bear a grudge any more:p -
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Peony you can take bibs Medela they are without In Biosphenol-A. They are the only ones (in my knowledge).
Of course I also was brought up in the bib in plastoc, I sucked of PVC, I was spread with junks, Mustela at the head and I did not die. But I also see the number of thirty-year person and quadra who around me get cancers for 10 last years. They blew up. Therefore I think that not to spread nevertheless of derivative products of oil, not to eat the plastoc or pesticides who kills insects, it is a question of common sense that they do not come to say me that it is possible to absorb all this with impunity without delinquency it is as fag: will always have it people to say that it is possible to smoke snas to die from it. my big father smoked all his life as a fireman and died in 85 years. But my aunt also: and she died in 52 of a lung cancer which has metastas and took her in some months.
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Klorane (but has there from the paraben therefore I am going to change bientot) + WELEDA (but do not wash hair, please) + avene
have tests soap WELEDA: my daughter had red plates therefore I am held in frost
I gave birth lhopital has public 2 months ago and this time I n had briefcase: neglect or political news?
it is what this history of bib? I use avent+micr-onde+lave-vaisselle, ca feared? -
having said that, not need to knock willy-nilly in the Bio not to have of paraben. Ray bath, cadum is very well for the babies as for the big and not ruining.
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As Chocoladdict, me, I use cadum for the shower and hair.
Now, for the popo wholesale trade, I have lingettes, by worries of speed and of effectiveness.
On the contrary, no cream nor of eau de toilette. I see utility (but we live in the campaign, the tr s far from Paris; o)
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Said Leona :
I also am against the use of perfumes, smells good and other "eaux de toilette " especially market s for children! what an idea, frankly! even if I must admit that the smell of Tar and Shock is great good, never me not in pschitterai on my baby. Useless and dangerous.
Woman-flower, make a small search in Web concerning bib Advent, you will see that they have bad press for some months, especially if they be heated (in microwaves or by washing them in the dishwasher). Information or desinformation? I I continue using them, it is late too in any case and I never make them heat -
says :
the problem of nursing bottles Advent is that it contain (as many) the In bisphenol - In from which molecules free in heat and "pollute" the milk. For a bib in surrounding temp rateure, no worry. For bib crossed in microwaves, the dose is massive. In Canada they have just forbidden them and they were withdrawn from the market. In France, the committee made responsible for validating if yes or not they are dangerous (he In bisphenol-A after study turns out to be carcinogenic for the mice) is composed of minences who work moreover in boxes of plastic and of petrochemistry! therefore not very objective.
Principle of precaution, it is better to avoid them
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Well say therefore, I read some of your comments It is a full-time work to be mom! Error to pay attention to everything.
Otherwise you bear a grudge against me not, but I did not answer opinion poll sorry
Anyway les400clics thank you for this precision
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yes alas beauty product it is taken over by this market!
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CORRECTION: mark that I bought without paraben and all that sort of thing according to the parapharmacienne, it is uriage and not Klorane!
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e-Zabel says : @juju: yes under some navigators, opinion poll is down (under IE6 notably) desolate
For lingettes it is not well! Bouh!@sandralou: I imagine that with your job you must see all colours according to the parents!
@ratounette: yes the quality-label Bio for the milk, I know it is not obvious, but he parried that there is difference really I am not specialist on the contrary but I have tendency to believe him.
@Nath-Ali: yes without falling in the parano, some efforts and attention will perhaps allow not to contribute to spin a cancer to our children in 30 years. lingettes it is not well Nath!
@les400clics: welcome here, I read your article, made well hyper. Thank you for your precision throughout these comments!
@MissBrownie: without falling in the psychosis, I am sure as qqs moms here that the accumulation of these products / waves / polution is the reason of the increase of cancers everything just declares itself later but he will be unfortunately paid perhaps we too!
@C line: yes it is not possible to be perfectly environmentalist but already to pay attention to what is put on our body and especially on that of our monsters I find it necessary. Indeed, as you say it then, klo is not without paraben alas
@Blandine: what an advantage you have on us! Connaitre chemistry and to be possible read a tag! It will be necessary to give us information!
@Lise: do not get worried for the paving: on the contrary, it is top to feed debate. I think that this subject liked for my part, I tell myself that it is not because there was a product during 50 years when it is willy-nilly without danger science makes that they discover new toxic material it is necessary to evolve with. Of course nothing is proved because they lack detachment on the man but tests on the animals are nevertheless amazing and flippants
@chocoladdict: yes I agree with you, it is going to be necessary to be also wary of frightening speech there is Bio and Bio, besides, I recommend you the blog of Miss Bio which if there connait perfectly on this subject and offers true organic produce!
@diditete: I think basarder of my Klorane also, I am going to see what I am going to get from the place, WELEDA seem a good idea.
@Pimousse: without being afraid, it is well to be aware and to try to make at best to protect myself, even if it will change nothing perhaps for us it is necessary to think to our small wolves!
@evy: for bib, I had a bit channel-flicked but indeed so now it is forbidden in Canada I use Chicco, I think that it is the same type as Advent
@pivoine: uriage is without paraben? needs that I look this then
@firemaman: perfumes on the shelf I love!
@diditete: yes I think of it, but I know myself there not much, I have to do researches to write over.
@Leona: you learn me that bib Advent is forbidden to the canada I am always persuaded that the Canadian are "ahead of time " on us on this type of thing, I am of loan what they recommend!
@La woman flower: I go to basarder Klorane so ah for limps her rose in motherhood to be seen if it is a neglect or a real will!
@FLOUCHE: welcome here. For perfume, it is not because bets are lived that it is necessary to put it! lol
Concerning the cleaning of wholesale trades popo in lingettes, personally, mine is the king of the popo wholesale trade squashed everywhere and with 3 cottons it is nikel!@Touwity: not I bear a grudge against you not! lol
@corienga: it is a big market casually
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I use least possible product.
therefore for the bath, frost without soap bodies and baby hair Cadum. I turned in no way to this mark but me originate was persuaded (not of paraben notably and this seemed relatively natural)
for the exchange rate: liniment ol ocalcaire.
bar or almost.
on the contrary at the nanny I think that she is in contact with other knack, reason furthermore not to top it up at home ;-)
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I think that it was symbolic and strong that this communication is thrown about the available products in motherhood, especially to show the pressure of marques/des laboratories to be 1ers in contact with the mother and her child, then to secure the loyalty of them during years. A thing is sure: my belly and my babies will have from the Bio to be eaten indoors as outside, at the farthest. The budget is going to blow up, c clait.
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sincerely I think no that the knack which is given us to put her down is really an indicator of purchase afterwards? personally I have already had my opinion on these products before motherhood!
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says : For time I feel almost concerned; I still do not have child (yes I proj te me by marking ) but it is possible that one day I have it and I will then be confronted with the problems which you recall. I will react then just as today for me; that is, not principle of precaution, but of common sense. As you point it out the exhibition at different risks is inherent in our way of life, on the contrary it is necessary not to be moronic. I will take products therefore without embellishment; the cr me who smells nice the eucalyptus or which makes cool as the wind of the Alps no trouble. And just as you I will stop in products standards, and not in the last innovations which seem to make life easier but without that they take place very well.
In a word: I agree with you!
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DramaK. says : I arrive a bit after everybody, and I delay a layer with this page:
All that is rather stressful! Personally, I emptied my cupboards Indeed, the products of parapharma or gde conso which do not contain a paraben contain of EDTA (BIOLANE) or of ph noxy thanol (uriage, Av ne). I found no mark not bio without damaging component!
I therefore headed for the line baby of Cattier, even if texture and perfume of products is less nice than those that I used until then. But rest the question of allergens
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for tight budgets, has it cadum (ss parab ne) for the bath.
A bb NATURALLY SMELLS NICE YES! -
exusperance says : I had already heard about it when notion REACH was voted to the European Parliament. For those who want more information to go to see the guide Vigitox of Greenpeace. Let us say that it makes reflect. For my pitchoune, I use products Cadum, guarantees without paraben and which are found in supermarket. Now, I also use them for all family. they have an interesting and reassuring range of products in comparison with other marks.
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